Bill C Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 Anyone know what this is? There is no glass on the gauge so I suspect it doesn't even work, but I guess I should know what it is 🙂  Thanks, Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Clendenon Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 Bill, this should be your regulatory for tag axle pressure adjustment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Van Arsdall Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 That is the pressure regulator for your tag axle. Pull up on the black knob to adjust the pressure applied on the tag to be higher or lower. Start the engine to see if the gauge moves. Rotate the knob to see the reaction to know if the gauge is registering properly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GranPrix Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 If you don't have a tag, it is the pressure regulator for your rear camera air nozzle. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve P Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 That's your flux capacitor (for time travel). Seriously, it is! 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donflem Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 It’s for your tag but it seems real high on your setting. I sounder what some of you guys set yours at? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redstickbill Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 That's the regulator for the tag axle. How does the coach handle on the road? If the coach is new to you, start with getting the coach weighed at all tires, adjust the tire pressure for the heaviest weight on each axle, then drive the coach, if the coach handles good, you are set, adjusting the tag axle regulator can help to have the coach good. Bill B 07 Dynasty USN Ret. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Van Arsdall Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 After having my coach weighed and playing with the adjustment I ended up running my tag at 45 pounds of pressure. Rides much nicer also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivylog Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 40 psi in the tag’s airbags is a good starting point but on the first year of a Dynasty with a tag axle, I doubt you need that much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill C Posted October 24, 2021 Author Share Posted October 24, 2021 Yes I have a tag axle, so I guess this is for that, as almost everyone pointed out. I've had my couch for about 6-7 years and think it rides good, but I do seem to notice that the rear of the coach squats down a little when I lift my motorcycle (I have a M/C lift on the back. Perhaps I should increase the pressure a little bit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
96 EVO Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 Only way to know for sure is to run it over a scale both with, and without the bike on the lift, and get 3 axle weights each time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivylog Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 A 1000+ lbs hanging off the rear makes a BIG difference… probably go to 50 psi and then weigh. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul J A Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 On 10/23/2021 at 5:25 PM, Corkman said: Anyone know what this is? There is no glass on the gauge so I suspect it doesn't even work, but I guess I should know what it is 🙂  Thanks, Bill At 254" wheelbase, minor adjustment of the pressure on the tag will cause signifcant weight transfer from the tag to the drive. Look at the sales brochure for your coach here; https://www.monacocoach.com/luxury-rv-brochures?y=2001 You may want tp print that sales brochure. lots of great info there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Frank Bergamo Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 It also affects the steer axle. It is very easy to overload the steer axle, so make sure you get all 3 axle weights to know exactly where you are at on axle weights. Hope this helps. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill C Posted October 25, 2021 Author Share Posted October 25, 2021 How do I know the correct tag axle load/weight? Can the truck scales weight my rear axle and tag axle separately? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redstickbill Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 Corkman, Yes, truck scales will give you a read out that shows each axle weight. Bill B 07 Dynasty 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Bergamo Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 Most of the big truck stops have 3 platform scales that will weight each axle separately. After weighing look at your placard behind and to the left of the driver seat. It will give you maximum weight amounts for each axle. Then adjust tag regulator to stay under max weight of each axle. It will take several attempts at weighing to achieve desired results. More tag regulator pressure increases weight on steer axle and tag axle, decreases weight on drive axle. Less pressure on tag regulator decreases weight on steer axle and tag axle, increases weight on drive axle. Hope this helps. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgecederholm Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 If you do choose to increase the tag pressure (weighing with motorcycle on board strongly recommended), it might make sense to check the specs on the pressure valve. Our 2005 Exec, either due to design on the 45 PBQ floor plan and/or the way we load things, requires about 60-65 PSI in the tag to get the front axle weight in line. I found our original tag regulator was only rated for 0-50 PSI, which explained why it constantly leaked air. I replaced it with a Watts 0-125 PSI regulator, which came with a new gauge, and haven’t had an issue since. The floor plan and coach length can make a big difference to how much the tag needs to be loaded. Ours has a lighter generator up front (10k vs 12.5k), the washer/dryer aft of the bed, 8 house batteries instead of the original 4, and the chassis batteries right inside the engine compartment door. Plus, it has the Detroit Diesel option which I believe adds quite a bit of weight to the back over the ISM. That’s why everyone else’s experience might not directly translate, and why getting at least axle weights for individual motorhomes loaded for travel is so important. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Petersen Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 In checking, I found that my regulator is broken and I need a replacement. As per Georges suggestion above, I looked for a Watts 0-125 PSI. Those first described online are indicated for water use. Does the regulator know if it is regulating water or air? Any recommendations for a specific replacement model? 2002' Sig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgecederholm Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 14 minutes ago, Gary Petersen said: In checking, I found that my regulator is broken and I need a replacement. As per Georges suggestion above, I looked for a Watts 0-125 PSI. Those first described online are indicated for water use. Does the regulator know if it is regulating water or air? Any recommendations for a specific replacement model? 2002' Sig I could be wrong about the brand, since it was a while ago, but I think this is roughly equivalent. https://www.amazon.com/Parker-14R118FC-Regulator-Relieving-Pressure/dp/B007FXJICQ/ref=sr_1_4?dchild=1&keywords=air%2Bregulator%2B1%2F4%2Bnpt%2B125%2Bpsi&qid=1635274352&qsid=143-1526941-0790323&sr=8-4&sres=B0081TJISW%2CB007FXJICQ%2CB07STNLFMS%2CB07STM6HGX%2CB01G2F6EMY%2CB01MDM25XT%2CB007FXK6FO%2CB07BRLXHHK%2CB073WWG91G%2CB008PZ6OWK%2CB0057D8LMY%2CB01BPQDG62%2CB016DB1XYG%2CB005JDKY68%2CB0142ALXTU%2CB07XYQJ19P&th=1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
96 EVO Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 8 hours ago, georgecederholm said: If you do choose to increase the tag pressure (weighing with motorcycle on board strongly recommended), it might make sense to check the specs on the pressure valve. Our 2005 Exec, either due to design on the 45 PBQ floor plan and/or the way we load things, requires about 60-65 PSI in the tag to get the front axle weight in line. I found our original tag regulator was only rated for 0-50 PSI, which explained why it constantly leaked air. I replaced it with a Watts 0-125 PSI regulator, which came with a new gauge, and haven’t had an issue since. The floor plan and coach length can make a big difference to how much the tag needs to be loaded. Ours has a lighter generator up front (10k vs 12.5k), the washer/dryer aft of the bed, 8 house batteries instead of the original 4, and the chassis batteries right inside the engine compartment door. Plus, it has the Detroit Diesel option which I believe adds quite a bit of weight to the back over the ISM. That’s why everyone else’s experience might not directly translate, and why getting at least axle weights for individual motorhomes loaded for travel is so important. What's your axle weights with 60-65psi in the tag air bags? Minimal difference in weight between same year 10 and 12.5k Onan generators! They both run the same engine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgecederholm Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 On 10/26/2021 at 4:59 PM, 96 EVO said: What's your axle weights with 60-65psi in the tag air bags? Minimal difference in weight between same year 10 and 12.5k Onan generators! They both run the same engine. Ben, I'm about 14500 on the steer, 24000 on the drive, and 7500 on the tag. Still over slightly on the drive. Haven't weighed in a couple of years so due for that, as well as putting the rig on a diet. I'm running 315s on the steer and tag and 12R22.5 on the drive, so I have the weight covered (except for the 23k drive axle). Just did maintenance this summer and differential oil analysis looks good so not burning it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivylog Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 (edited) Around 2006 Monaco started moving the fuel tank from just behind the front axle to the 2nd bay taking a fair amount of weight off the front axle. My 08 Nav’s axle weights are 14, 23, & 10 (60 psi in the tag’s airbags). Not sure why you are using 315s on the tag…I’m using 11Rs. Edited October 28, 2021 by Ivylog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
96 EVO Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Ivylog said: Around 2006 Monaco started moving the fuel tank from just behind the front axle to the 2nd bay taking a fair amount of weight off the front axle. My 08 Nav’s axle weights are 14, 23, & 10 (60 psi in the tag’s airbags). Not sure why you are using 315s on the tag…I’m using 11Rs. Nope. My 08' has the fuel tank, followed by the 100gal fresh water tank, and AH in the first bay! 2 hours ago, georgecederholm said: Ben, I'm about 14500 on the steer, 24000 on the drive, and 7500 on the tag. Still over slightly on the drive. Haven't weighed in a couple of years so due for that, as well as putting the rig on a diet. I'm running 315s on the steer and tag and 12R22.5 on the drive, so I have the weight covered (except for the 23k drive axle). Just did maintenance this summer and differential oil analysis looks good so not burning it up. Yeah, you are heavy! I'm about #300 lighter on the steer, about the same as you on the tag, but luckily I'm only a little over #17,000 on the drive axle. My drive axle is rated by Monaco as a #20,000 axle, but while researching parts for it, I discovered the manufacturer lists it as a #19,000 axle! Edited October 28, 2021 by 96 EVO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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