InGodWeTrust Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 Hello everyone, I'm trying to track down starter for 2003 monaco windsor but am getting several part# current starter is 10478926 delco remey site shows several other #'s 8204433 or 10478818. Any feedback would be greatly appreciated don't want to order wrong one. Thanks in advance.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Maida Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 Call Veurinks Monaco Parts (616) 281-5111. They will ask for the serial number of coach. This tells them which starter is in your coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marine Boy Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 I don't know where your are located, but try these guys. They really know what they are doing. https://www.hutchersonae.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest toastmn Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 (edited) Replaced my 99 Windsor 8.3l with a Remy 8200433 39MT. Word of advice, the new starter is indexible. Wish I knew that before I started. One of the connections was a pain in the ass! 5 minutes to index would have saved me an hour or more of cussing lol! Edited January 26, 2022 by toastmn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chargerman Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 I believe all truck starters are indexable as they are used in many different applications. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldgoat Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 It might be cheaper to have it rebuilt . Just Google it. Most large cities have them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martinvz Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 Have you checked Oemy’s references? Also check with Brazels. They are good with the gas coaches but I have no experience ito their knowledge on Diesel coaches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xdieselbob Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 Having built Delco starters for years, I would suggest you update to 39MT Delco. The nose piece has six allen head screws so you can clock the mount. Most important thing is to make sure you count the teeth on the drive. Have used several imports and they will out last your coach. Most likely your old starter died from low amperage or the brushes hung up. Very common for the MT40/42 starters. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glang11082 Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 Delco 10461240, 10478818, 10478926, 10479109 Industrial Starter 100% New – Free Shipping! – Expedited rates available in cart Item# 6630N $362.99 $408.99 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InGodWeTrust Posted January 28, 2022 Author Share Posted January 28, 2022 Thanks Mike I have been putting this off but with travel season around the corner I better get on it. I do have a question what is indexing? How to..? On 1/26/2022 at 5:30 PM, toastmn said: Replaced my 99 Windsor 8.3l with a Remy 8200433 39MT. Word of advice, the new starter is indexible. Wish I knew that before I started. One of the connections was a pain in the ass! 5 minutes to index would have saved me an hour or more of cussing lol! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest toastmn Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 William, indexing, or the ability to clock /rotate the starter motor in relation to the mounting holes. If you look on my second picture, you can see a 5 threaded holes. While the starter is out of the coach you can remove and adjust as necessary. My solenoid pack is really close to the block, but I did get it to work. Wasn't until my final install picture that I noticed it could be indexed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InGodWeTrust Posted January 28, 2022 Author Share Posted January 28, 2022 5 hours ago, toastmn said: William, indexing, or the ability to clock /rotate the starter motor in relation to the mounting holes. If you look on my second picture, you can see a 5 threaded holes. While the starter is out of the coach you can remove and adjust as necessary. My solenoid pack is really close to the block, but I did get it to work. Wasn't until my final install picture that I noticed it could be indexed. Ah...got it thanks for explanation I can move forward with project. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woody O Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 On 1/26/2022 at 5:30 PM, toastmn said: Replaced my 99 Windsor 8.3l with a Remy 8200433 39MT. Word of advice, the new starter is indexible. Wish I knew that before I started. One of the connections was a pain in the ass! 5 minutes to index would have saved me an hour or more of cussing lol! What is indexing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivylog Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 (edited) There is a SAE standard for big engine starter bolt placement. Instead of a Delco, I would recommend a geared Denso starter on EBay. I used a mechanic with a pit (so I could spray for air leaks) to put a replacement Denso gear starter on my ISX. Because it had fewer teeth he said it would not fit so put the Delco back on. 3 years later when the Delco would barely turn it ove, put the Denso on… it was the correct starter as the gear is off center. Each of by 3 batteries (one at a time) will start it now. Edited January 28, 2022 by Ivylog 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul J A Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 THere where years that Monaco used undersized cables from the Chassis batterys to the starter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanwill52 Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 I also switched to the Denso gear-reduction starter several years ago. Spins the engine over much faster. Measured cranking amps with the Delco (non gear-reduction) and the Denso. Delco amps were considerably higher (can't remember exact numbers, but think it was about 150 amps more). I was not having problems with the Delco, but it always seemed to me that it was barely able to turn the engine over fast enough to start in really cold weather. I tried it once, and the Denso will fire it off in freezing weather, even if I do not wait for the electric manifold heaters to warm up. Another advantage is that the Denso is MUCH lighter. Wrestling that Delco to the ground while lying on my back was quite a feat. The Denso was easy. 2000 ISC-350 with nearly 200K miles. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Pratten Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 On 1/29/2022 at 9:22 AM, vanwill52 said: I also switched to the Denso gear-reduction starter several years ago. @vanwill52 do you happen to have the Denso starter part number you installed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivylog Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 428000-4440 and don’t worry about the fewer teeth as the gear is off center. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Pratten Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 1 hour ago, Ivylog said: 428000-4440 and don’t worry about the fewer teeth as the gear is off center. Thanks Dick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 Pay the extra for a genuine Denso if you're going that route, even if you're carrying a spare and the tools to change it. The Delco 37MT is also an excellent gear reduction starter and a similar reduction in weight from a direct drive. The 8200433 is a common replacement starter that is indexable as mentioned to adjust to different clearances. Not all 37MT are indexable, there are many part numbers that are "new equipment" that have a one piece instead of two piece adjustable base, because they are meant for new installation on a particular engine in a particular application. The "replacement" number will fit many "new equipment" part numbers, but may need to be clocked/indexed to fit. The "new equipment" will not fit all the applications that the "replacement" number will fit. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Pratten Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 47 minutes ago, Benjamin said: The 8200433 is a common replacement starter . . . Thanks Benjamin and yep, the 8200433 is Delco Remy’s recommended replacement for my 41MT and I appreciate the indexing feature. Denso’s cross reference info is a little hard to interpret. They list four different part numbers for the ISC in addition to the one Dick offered. Denso p/n 228000-5311 is most commonly listed replacement for the ISC and is Delco Remy’s cross for the 8200433. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 Above I mistakenly referred to the 37MT as gear reduction. The DELCO 37MT is the old direct drive starter that came on many engines originally. The 8200433 is a DELCO 39MT substitute. DENSO (as in Nippon Denso) is good also, either gear reduction starter is a big improvement. Take your chances with a copy if you want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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